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March 24, 2006



Crunchy Conservatives are anti-consumerist? Forgive my cynicism, but

(1) the press release identifies Crunchy Conservatives as the type of consumers who shop at Whole Foods (in the first sentence, no less!)


(2) you suggest that Crunchy Conservatives should be in the business of telling people how to dress, and in particular, telling them to avoid clothes which signal that the wearer is not upper-class.

It doesn't sound to me like the anti-consumerism runs very deep here.


Sorry, I missed where Nene said that only upper-class people believe in modesty?

Is that something you believe? Thanks for clarifying.

I see your point about Whole Foods. However, it's rather hard to write a book and document a phenomenon without mentioning any specific references, commercial or otherwise.

Anyway, even crunchies have to buy their food, or at least, the seeds to grow it.

Dreher doesn't argue that commercialism is always bad--just that it has to be balanced by more important values. (It's a means to an end, and not an end in itself.)

At any rate, yes I read the book, and I think he makes a pretty strong case.

Well, have a good weekend everyone--I'm signing off!


I had no idea that I would ever fit a 'hip' definition! I homeschool, grow most of my own fruits and vegetables, wear mostly ordinary clothes, and cook from scratch! Gee, it takes a lot of work to be crunchy...


For what it's worth, as an aside, I spend a majority of my waking hours pursuing a high-powered, well-paying job, and I've had plenty of time to know myself.

Indeed, it is my deep self-knowledge that empowers me to fight on towards a career goal that may very well take a lifetime to obtain.


and then what (lizriz)?


Then I set a new goal, if I haven't died trying to obtain the current one. It's certainly about the quest and the journey, for me. Fighting the good fight. And I suppose it's important that I want to be a working film/television director, so when it happens, there will be constant challenges and learning everyday. And for the first time in my life, my primary job will be *the* job. Instead of having to work two jobs. And I'll be free of the weekdays/weekends/two-weeks-a-year of vacation system that I find completely inhumane and contrary to what I would prefer, which is weeks of intense, long, focused work followed by many days off at a time. Hello, holiday hiatus!

And then what? Then I get to spend the rest of my life doing what I love: working hard and creating stories.


I consider myself a crunchy con and though I do have so pretty high career goals, I don't think live should be about fighting through goals. I certainly will give a lot to my goals, but ultimately I want my life to be about more permanant things. My career goals are part of that, since my specialty in my field, economics, is in sustainable agriculture and I hope to be a positive force in that area.. but there is a lot more to life than the rat face.


Thanks for all the comments! Some thoughs:

Anti-consumerism has less to do with where you shop and more to do with how high you place the accumulation of material things in life. Anti-consumerism is basically anti- 'keeping up with the Jones' mentality. I would say that you can be anti-consumerist and a millionaire. Having a lot of $$, working in a high-powered job, or shopping in fancy stores does not necessarily exclude you from being anti-consumerist and being a crunchy con. Like I said crunchy conservatism is a sensibility mainly centered on the beautiful sacramentality of life. There's nothing in this requirement that would suggest that people with a lot of $$ or with high powered jobs could not be crunchy cons- they of course have the ability to appreciate and live a sacramental life.

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